At both Neuengamme and Auschwitz last week it was pointed out that the Soviet prisoners of war were treated just like the other prisoners in the camps. In other words, inhumanely, subject to deplorable conditions and executions. Whereas POWs from other countries were housed in regular POW prison camps. Which is not to say that they were spectacular, but they at least nominally were in compliance with the Geneva Convention, which the other countries had signed.
But not, apparently, the Soviet Union, which seems to be why the Nazis took such liberties with the incarcerations of the Soviet POWs it captured.
In a modern context it raises the concern any soldier should have if fighting for a country that doesn't abide by the convention's terms. Whether because it didn't ratify it outright, or because it gets a reputation for not obeying it.
Edited 10/24.
Comments (7)
Not to dispute the overall point, but isn't the treatment of Soviet prisoners more due to the fact that the Germans regarded slavs as subhuman (and so, in the same category as jews, gypsies, etc.), rather than the fact that the Soviet Union didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention?
Posted by Mike | October 23, 2005 10:03 AM
Posted on October 23, 2005 10:03
Well, we might need an actual historian to explain the ins and outs (this was what was related to me by at least one of the tour guides) but my sense is that it might be a combination of factors. The animus towards slavs meant that, barring any good reason not to (Geneva Convention), the Nazis would take whatever liberties they wanted.
But even so, I don't think they mass-slaughtered them like they did Jews and Gypsies.
Posted by Cathy | October 23, 2005 10:16 AM
Posted on October 23, 2005 10:16
Cathy, did you know that there's a Yizkor Book for the (former) Jewish community of Suwalki?
Go to this site and type "suwalki" into the text block: http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html
Posted by Eric Muller | October 23, 2005 6:22 PM
Posted on October 23, 2005 18:22
Thanks! But the stupid netnanny the school uses is currently blocking it for some reason. (I HATE censorware, but that's a separate topic.)
My cousin who has been doing some geneology work may know about it, but I'll send it to him just in case.
Posted by Cathy | October 24, 2005 4:58 AM
Posted on October 24, 2005 04:58
I think the long-range plan was to exterminate the slavs. Part of the idea behind the invasion of the USSR was to create more "labensraum" for the German race. If I recall my WWII history correctly, the slavs were going to basically be mass-worked to death to make room for that.
Given that, and given that Germany wasn't all about obeying internationa law at that time, my intuition (w/out being a WWII expert) is that the USSR being part of the Geneva Convention would probably only have marginally improved the treatment of Soviet soldiers.
Posted by Mike | October 24, 2005 6:41 PM
Posted on October 24, 2005 18:41
The fac that it wasn't in compliance with Geneva was the fact that Geneva Convention was signed 4 years after the war ended.
Posted by David May | October 25, 2005 8:14 AM
Posted on October 25, 2005 08:14
Actually, that was the fourth Geneva Convention. The third was in force since 1929, although I can't find independent corroboration about the Soviet Union's signatory status. Interestingly, Russia had signed an earlier version, but I guess that didn't necessarily bind the USSR?
I did find this note though:
Which raises some interesting issues if what the tour guide said about the Nazis' treatment of the Soviet POWs was true.
Posted by Cathy | October 25, 2005 9:18 AM
Posted on October 25, 2005 09:18